Prop Firms

The VWAP Wave System was not designed for prop-firm evaluations. It’s a discretionary framework built by a trader who trades his own money, and it assumes you can size to the setup and sit through a normal amount of adverse movement. A funded account assumes nothing of the kind. It has a trailing drawdown, a daily loss limit, consistency rules, and a clock. This is how I made the two fit, written from my own experience and nobody else’s.

The account decides the setup list

My trading plan is written for a large funded account, with a maximum of three ES contracts or ten micros, and a daily loss limit far tighter than the account’s own. That’s deliberate. The firm’s limit is the point at which you’re out. Mine is the point at which I stop before I’m out. Everything else in the plan flows from that number: how many pieces I can scale in with, where the structural stop can sit, and therefore which setups are even eligible.

  • VWAP Bounce and Price Discovery Continuation survive evaluation rules best. Their structural stops are close, the trade is with the day’s direction, and the first target is usually near.
  • Return to Value works, but the rejection-entry version, the lower-probability one that doesn’t wait for a backtest, is off the list in a funded account. I only take the confirmed version.
  • Fade Value Area Extremes is the one that gets people. It’s a good setup on a balanced day and a catastrophe on a trend day, and one trend-day fade in size can end an evaluation. I take it smaller and only with a flat VWAP and overlapping value.

Three strikes

Three losing trades in a session and I’m done for the day, regardless of where I am against the limit. It’s blunter than the daily stop and it fires earlier. The reason is that the third loss is where my execution quality falls apart, and the trades I’d take between strike three and the hard limit are the trades that blow evaluations. The rule costs me the occasional recovery. It has never cost me an account.

From my plan: if the daily max loss is hit, close the platform immediately and walk away. Simulator drills or chart mark-ups only. The rule is written down because in the moment I will not remember why it exists.

Scaling out, not in, under a trailing drawdown

A trailing drawdown punishes open profit that you give back. So in an evaluation I take partials earlier than the system would ideally like: first piece at VWAP or the point of control, second at the prior extreme, runner only if the structure is clearly continuing. It leaves money on the table on the best days. It also means a good session stays a good session on the account’s ledger, which is the only ledger the firm reads.

What I’d tell you before you pay for an evaluation

  1. Learn the system in a simulator first, with the firm’s rules loaded, for long enough to see a trend day and a balanced day go wrong.
  2. Write your plan for the account, not for the system. Then trade the plan.
  3. Decide the daily stop and the three-strikes rule before the first session, and make the platform enforce them if it can.
  4. Expect to fail an evaluation. I have, more than once, on the way to passing many and taking multiple payouts. The question is never whether you failed one. It’s whether you can explain why from the journal.

I also trade live cash accounts, and that is a different topic with different rules, so it gets its own lesson rather than a paragraph here. Where I’ve traded with a specific firm, I say so on the page about it, and where a link earns me a commission that page says so too. Nothing here is a recommendation of any firm; the rules change without notice and you should read the current ones yourself.

Disclosure. VWAP.biz is an independent site written by Scott West, a paying member of Drysdale Trading Group. The VWAP Wave System™ is Chris Drysdale’s work, and this site is not affiliated with or endorsed by him. Links to his book, toolkit, and community are affiliate links: if you buy through them I may earn a commission at no extra cost to you. Nothing here is financial advice, and trading futures carries a risk of loss. Full disclosure · Risk disclaimer

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